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Offline Meleana

the alt waitress that was just posted
«: February 28, 2012, 12:55:42 AM»
she pretty much black mailed my fiance
with my alt


and this is what happened

because before this person was trying to get the alt back that was already traded to me,  and then i traded it for a lifer (toytle), and than all of a sudden then girl said she needed it back because it was her friends (Masaya), and her friend was upset about and reported me and her to the guardians, and told me if i didnt get the alt back she was going to have me banned so than i actually was being nice to fix the whole situation even though it should have been between the girl i trade with originally and Masaya  since it was the orignal owners mess up and i got caught up in the middle of it because " i was going to get banned"and gave her friend an alt with a lifer on it.

and she BEGGED ME
to get the the alt that i trade back
because SHE NEEDED IT
so i gave her waitress with a  foxen lifer on it
and she gave me 3gd...
thats it


and what does she do
she posts it on FAM


when she told me she needed it
and threatened me she was going to have me banned from furc


i have all the logs and screen shots
and whispers of the whole situation

yes i knew not to even fix the situation or try
but i didnt want get banned so i had to hand over my alt with the lifer digo on it

her screen shot of the post
http://i43.tinypic.com/nz4ye1.png


so i lost two portspaces
an alt with a nice ref with a lifer on it
and a desctag....

and ended up with 3gd


Offline vines

Re: the alt waitress that was just posted
«Reply #1: February 28, 2012, 01:06:22 AM»
this girl pretty much blackmailed me to give her a alt with a forlifer on it or i was going to be banned.

this girl made me lost all i actually had at the moment
this is cruel


02/27/12 20:19:39 Vines: i am sorry your friend lost temujin
02/27/12 20:29:12 Vines: you should really talk to me
02/27/12 20:29:24 Vines: im in control her and the only one that can get your friends alt back
02/27/12 21:29:04 Vines: hello
02/27/12 21:33:47 Vines: if you want your alt temujin back
02/27/12 21:33:52 Vines: you need to respond now
02/27/12 23:58:39 Masaya: Sorry i was watching a movie
02/27/12 23:58:43 Masaya: I'm back.
02/27/12 23:58:57 Vines: okay well me and rumil
02/27/12 23:59:02 Vines: have been trying to talk to you
02/27/12 23:59:16 Vines: i am the person her sister sold temujin too
02/27/12 23:59:22 Masaya: Okay..
02/27/12 23:59:24 Vines: but rumil
02/27/12 23:59:41 Vines: whispered me too late when i was in the middle of trading it
02/27/12 23:59:48 Masaya: ...
02/27/12 23:59:53 Vines: i had already got gifted the lifer totyle for it
02/27/12 23:59:57 Vines: and couldnt take it back
02/28/12 00:00:06 Vines: so i no longer have that alt
02/28/12 00:00:13 Vines: it was traded
02/28/12 00:00:24 Vines: but i can try and see what he would want for it back
02/28/12 00:00:30 Masaya: Oh. My. God.
02/28/12 00:01:07 Vines: yes
02/28/12 00:01:14 Vines: i had no idea it wasnt hers
02/28/12 00:01:22 Vines: i traded stuff for it yesterday evening
02/28/12 00:01:26 Masaya: Ugh.
02/28/12 00:01:34 Vines: i had no clue and i am sorry
02/28/12 00:01:56 Masaya: I already told guardians, so before you get banned on furcadia, i would get it back to me.
02/28/12 00:02:10 Vines: i wont get banned i already talked to them
02/28/12 00:02:16 Vines: it was a straight up far trade to me
02/28/12 00:02:24 Vines: that i was assumed it was hers
02/28/12 00:02:31 Vines: this is no way my fault at all
02/28/12 00:02:41 Masaya: PLEASE get it back. PLEASE.
02/28/12 00:03:13 Vines: i have no way to get it back unless someone buys it from the new owner
02/28/12 00:03:23 Vines: they already have changed everything plus the ini file
02/28/12 00:03:31 Masaya: Can you find a way?
02/28/12 00:04:12 Vines: i dont know because the person valued the totyle that they traded me for the alt at 40paypal
02/28/12 00:04:28 Vines: so i asume to get it back i would have to give something in that value
02/28/12 00:04:49 Vines: which is not fair to me because i was honest with my part of the trade with rumil
02/28/12 00:04:59 Vines: and i traded two port spaces for it
02/28/12 00:05:07 Masaya: Who owns the alt now.
02/28/12 00:05:09 Vines: and shes already used them
02/28/12 00:05:26 Vines: i dont have the persons name save on pounce i forgot it
02/28/12 00:05:29 Vines: it was really long
02/28/12 00:05:40 Masaya: Look on pounce then
02/28/12 00:05:45 Vines: it was a quick transaction
02/28/12 00:05:48 Vines: i already have
02/28/12 00:06:06 Vines: im on a macbook pro its different then a pc it only saves saved people added not recent
02/28/12 00:07:54 Vines: and theres no way to even just get the lifer back because its not tradable yet
02/28/12 00:08:27 Masaya: I know. Rumil told me that he's talking to you about giving me the money to buy a new one. I would realy appreciate it.
02/28/12 00:08:49 Vines: well i wouldnt pay retail
02/28/12 00:08:57 Vines: there used 15 bucks max for a lifer
02/28/12 00:09:14 Masaya: I'll take 15 bucks then. However much. I just need it.
02/28/12 00:09:25 Vines: i said i would see
02/28/12 00:09:39 Masaya: Thank you so much
02/28/12 00:09:42 Vines: this is not my fault i did the trade fair and square
02/28/12 00:10:14 Vines: what was your lifer
02/28/12 00:10:33 Vines: do you have any lifers or anything gd?
02/28/12 00:10:42 Vines: i may have a quick solution
02/28/12 00:10:53 Masaya: I have 3 GD e.e No lifers.
02/28/12 00:11:05 Vines: what was your lifer
02/28/12 00:11:18 Masaya: Wolven.
02/28/12 00:13:15 Vines: i have a really good alt name it has a really awesome done referance as well with a flaming sword desctag and a forlife foxen
02/28/12 00:13:22 Vines: thats the best i can do
02/28/12 00:13:31 Vines: and if i do it everything better be resolved
02/28/12 00:13:40 Masaya: Sigh... I really want a wolven...
02/28/12 00:13:43 Masaya: But I guess..
02/28/12 00:13:51 Masaya: Thanks. :/ Whats the alt name and password?
02/28/12 00:13:54 Vines: its all i have that i could give
02/28/12 00:14:07 Vines: everything else my fiancee owns and she loves her lifers
02/28/12 00:14:08 Masaya: Okay. thank you so much
02/28/12 00:14:11 Vines: its her bday today
02/28/12 00:14:13 Masaya: Oo
02/28/12 00:14:23 Masaya: Tell her happy birthday x3 Whats the alt?
02/28/12 00:14:31 Vines: and thats why i traded the alt for the totyle because she wanted one for her bday so bad
02/28/12 00:14:39 Masaya: Okie
02/28/12 00:14:53 Vines: hold i need to change the password first because its our main pass for all our alts
02/28/12 00:15:00 Masaya: okay.
02/28/12 00:15:10 Vines: and btw your lucky because people would die for the alt name waitress
02/28/12 00:15:29 Masaya: I dont have waitress... But shes my friend?
02/28/12 00:15:41 Masaya: Oh
02/28/12 00:15:42 Masaya: wait
02/28/12 00:15:43 Masaya: of
02/28/12 00:15:48 Masaya: Thatas the alt XD Thanks!
02/28/12 00:15:52 Vines: we got waitress a few days ago
02/28/12 00:15:59 Masaya: Oo cool!
02/28/12 00:16:12 Vines: thats not your alt that was given to me by rumil
02/28/12 00:16:23 Masaya: WAitress?
02/28/12 00:16:24 Vines: your alt was temujin
02/28/12 00:16:27 Masaya: I know..
02/28/12 00:16:49 Masaya: Whats the password for Waitress? :P
02/28/12 00:16:54 Vines: i swear im going to be upset if you make any issues with this issue
02/28/12 00:17:00 Masaya: I wont xD
02/28/12 00:17:07 Vines: if i give you this alt everything is back to normal with your friend as well
02/28/12 00:17:11 Masaya: Yes/
02/28/12 00:17:18 Vines: hold i need to change the passworkd give me a few minutes
02/28/12 00:17:21 Masaya: Okay.
02/28/12 00:18:27 Vines: rumil is saying your still mad
02/28/12 00:18:38 Masaya: Only a bit, because that lifer meant a lot to me.
02/28/12 00:18:47 Vines: would you mind giving me the 3gd since i did pay 50 for the alt with the lifer?
02/28/12 00:19:18 Masaya: But the foxen if worth the wolven, so it's equel... im really saving the GD for something i want to buy..
02/28/12 00:19:50 Vines: yeah but this wasnt my fault in the first place i lost 2 port spaces because of this and now im losing my own lifer that i paided for
02/28/12 00:19:57 Vines: i only paided for the alt and ref
02/28/12 00:20:06 Masaya: Can i give you 1.50 GD?
02/28/12 00:20:26 Vines: i have no gd to get another port spaces
02/28/12 00:20:30 Vines: im trying to help you
02/28/12 00:20:35 Vines: and non of this was my fauly
02/28/12 00:20:37 Masaya: Alright, fine.
02/28/12 00:20:37 Vines: fault
02/28/12 00:20:46 Masaya: Just let me see the alt first too see :P
02/28/12 00:21:02 Vines: gift me the gd and then the password i will give you . hold on
02/28/12 00:21:12 Masaya: I need to see first. I am not getting hacked AGAIN.
02/28/12 00:22:00 Vines: i will
02/28/12 00:22:08 Vines: hold on im getting you the ref file
02/28/12 00:22:29 Masaya: Alright.
02/28/12 00:23:15 Masaya: Wait, cant you just give me the password?
02/28/12 00:23:34 Vines: password
02/28/12 00:23:38 Vines: thats the password
02/28/12 00:23:55 Masaya: and the alt is waitress, right?
02/28/12 00:24:07 Vines: http://i42.tinypic.com/2vuh941.png
02/28/12 00:24:11 Vines: thats the ref
02/28/12 00:24:17 Vines: and yes waitress
02/28/12 00:24:47 Masaya: okay...
02/28/12 00:24:50 Masaya: one sec.
02/28/12 00:25:32 Vines: okay
02/28/12 00:26:35 Masaya: alright its good
02/28/12 00:27:03 Vines: gd please
02/28/12 00:27:10 Masaya: oh ok
02/28/12 00:27:50 Masaya: there
02/28/12 00:27:54 Masaya: thanks.
02/28/12 00:28:25 Vines: thank you and please keep me out of any of this
02/28/12 00:28:29 Masaya: Yeah yeah
02/28/12 00:28:29 Vines: i helped as much as i can

Offline Mina

Re: the alt waitress that was just posted
«Reply #2: February 28, 2012, 01:21:55 AM»
As an outsider, you guys gave her an alt with a lifer on it, willingly, to help her out. So it's hers to do as she pleases, but on her part she did something selfish and ungreatful. She wanted it "so bad" then why sell it? She JUST got it therefore she shouldn't be in a rush to sell it and from the look of it, on her thread anyways. She was really happy and gloating that she owns the alt Waitress.

Also Masaya has no right to say that to your fiancée when he did a fair trade. The person at fault here was Masaya's friend, the person who started the whole thing. your fiancée was someone who just happened to be interested in the alt and bought it for two space but sold it off for a lifer. She can't go again telling you guys you'll get ban for something you didn't do anything wrong for. You can't help it if her alt was stolen or however her friend got her hands on the alt. It has nothing to do with you, your fiancée just bought it and sold it because he owned it at the time.

FYI, furcadia doesn't give a damn about alt trades so you wouldn't get ban unless your scamming people they don't bother to deal with because they don't support alt trades at all.

I've also talked to the fiancée, here are the logs.

Quote
(00:42:33) Vines: so i pretty much got blackmailed
(00:44:27) Asian: It's a dirty trick she used and I don't like it.
(00:46:06) Vines: i lost allot because of her
(00:47:11) Vines: how do i speak to a guarden
(00:47:14) Asian: How much did you lost?
(00:47:23) Vines: well heres exactly what happened
(00:54:10) Vines: yesterday i trade 2 port spaces for a alt the alt had a lifer on it. then i met someone on the alt market that had a lifer totyle for trade or sale i whispered him offering the alt that i had just got she checked it out and agree to trade the totyle for my alt with the lifer. then as i was gifted the totyle i was on the alt taking and changing info to give to the person i was trading the the alt to for the totyle and the original person that i trade the 2 portspaces for whisper the alt that i was trading the person and she said she needed it back because her friend was pissed because supposably it was her friends and not hers and i had told her that i was already gifted the totyle and that the alt was no longer mine. then me and rumil tried to talk to her friend and work things out and she ignored us for about 2 hours didnt say a world then she ended up talking to me and saying that i need to get it back or else i will get banned which i didnt want to happen she told me if i gave her my alt (waitress) that she would drop everything and forgot about it. and i told her do you atleast have some gd to give me and she said she had 3GD that she would give me which she did and then gave me atitude when i said i hope im not brought into this anymore and she said yeah yeah yeah and then ignored me. so i lost really 2 port spaces a alt with a beautiful ref and a forlifer foxen and a flaming sword desctag. so i ended up with 3gd after giving her the alt with the lifer when this was not my fault in the first place but she threaten to have me banned if i didnt fix the situation. so i lost wait i just explain .
(00:55:52) Vines: so now i have the totyle which was a fair trade for the alt with the forlife wolven that i traded the person
(00:57:58) Asian: It's her friend to blame for selling the alt, plus she gave you rudeness when you were being nice. she ignored you when you were trying to work things out. It shows to me that she didn't want anything to deal with you and knew you had money therefore she wanted more than what she lost.
(00:58:22) Vines: yeah but now im out a lifer and alt
(00:58:27) Vines: and 2 port spaces
(00:59:46) Vines: i buy all the alt and dingos with my hard earned money for erica my fiancee (meleana) can be happy and enjoy furcadia and now she has lost a beautiful alt with art on it and a lifer we has plans for her.
(00:59:52) Vines: but i did not want her to be banned
(01:00:00) Vines: thats why i delt with it on my name
(01:00:10) Vines: this is really mean a cruel
(01:08:13) Asian: I know. :(
(01:08:31) Asian: Can I use the logs of us?
(01:08:36) Asian: I'd like to post it up on the thread.
(01:08:37) Vines: please post in the thread i want to make sure everyone knows about the alt waitress
(01:08:41) Vines: and what she did to get it
(01:08:47) Vines: sure can
 

After talking with Vines, (Meleana's fiancée) and reading the logs he posted I noted that Masaya had an attitude while he was trying to work it out. Plus, her friend was the one who sold it, so they take it out on him and not her friend?

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Offline Blackwall

Re: the alt waitress that was just posted
«Reply #3: February 28, 2012, 01:37:54 AM»
Masaya has been blackmailing Vines and Meleana with the threat of getting them banned if they don't give her back the alt that they no longer have. They did a fair trade for the alt she wanted back. However, when they gave her one of their alts, she paid very poorly for it, and then posted it back up for sale. This shows Vines and Meleana that she was scamming them to get rid of one of their best alts, just so she can turn around and resell it for a higher price than what she paid for it, and I don't think she has any right to blackmail them and threaten them for a fair trade that they did.

Offline Mina

Re: the alt waitress that was just posted
«Reply #4: February 28, 2012, 01:08:48 PM»
Masaya has been blackmailing Vines and Meleana with the threat of getting them banned if they don't give her back the alt that they no longer have. They did a fair trade for the alt she wanted back. However, when they gave her one of their alts, she paid very poorly for it, and then posted it back up for sale. This shows Vines and Meleana that she was scamming them to get rid of one of their best alts, just so she can turn around and resell it for a higher price than what she paid for it, and I don't think she has any right to blackmail them and threaten them for a fair trade that they did.

Like I said, furcadia doesn't support alt trades at all so you wouldn't get ban over them unless you went out of line and scammed people. I highly doubt the alt will sell now plus she's asking a lot more than she paid for it and it doesn't seem worth it.

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Offline ___

Re: the alt waitress that was just posted
«Reply #5: February 28, 2012, 01:46:08 PM»
http://altmarket.net/index.php?topic=53830.msg644135;topicseen#new

Apparently action is being taken and I think black mailing your way back out of a trade is not a way to ever do things

Offline Masaya

Re: the alt waitress that was just posted
«Reply #6: February 28, 2012, 01:49:59 PM»
hi! its me. Masaya. yeah. Right. I wasnt blackmailing at all o_o Also, i never even TALKED to Meleana. I was talking to Vines and Rumil. Oh, and, it's against the rules to post logs unless you ask the person. So you are violating rules. You told me that if you gave me waitress (the one with the foxen) I would tell the guardians its all over and its resolved. you were fine with it. Now your complaining? It's my alt now, i can do what i want with it. Please leave me alone. And yes, Furcadia does not support alt trading.
Thanks.

Offline </3

Re: the alt waitress that was just posted
«Reply #7: February 28, 2012, 02:42:08 PM»
hi! its me. Masaya. yeah. Right. I wasnt blackmailing at all o_o Also, i never even TALKED to Meleana. I was talking to Vines and Rumil. Oh, and, it's against the rules to post logs unless you ask the person. So you are violating rules. You told me that if you gave me waitress (the one with the foxen) I would tell the guardians its all over and its resolved. you were fine with it. Now your complaining? It's my alt now, i can do what i want with it. Please leave me alone. And yes, Furcadia does not support alt trading.
Thanks.

You confronted the Guardians with a matter that was nothing to do with you.
Your "friend" supposedly sold your alt, so they're at fault, not Vines.
You then harrassed and threatened Vines with getting banned for simply buying an alt.
Vines had no choice but to give you an alt in return for you to stop tormenting and harrassing him; not the wisest of choices but if it'd keep him clear of banned matters then he did so.

Also; quite personally Guardians don't give a damn about alt trading, you; Masaya can only get Vines banned for HACKING/STEALING your account. Not for trading alts with your friend.
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Offline Zim

Re: the alt waitress that was just posted
«Reply #8: February 28, 2012, 03:27:50 PM»
If I see anyone else posting in any other thread about the scam but this one, I will be handing out bans. You have been warned.
Keep the accusations and discussion WHERE THEY BELONG.

I'm only mean out of necessity.

Offline Meleana

Re: the alt waitress that was just posted
«Reply #9: February 29, 2012, 01:57:06 PM»
WOW
so i was messaged by a person
and they told me that i should
give her a bad rating
and i was like yah okay ill do that whatever
because i dint think of that before
so now Masaya decided to put a bad
rep on me saying "i hacked her"
because i put a bad rating on her sayign she "scammed me"




when i never hacked her alt
and if i did
im pretty sure
i wouldnt be on furc
and everyone would know





and also!


i have all the whispers of the whole situation of what happened

so i therefore not hacked a single person

thus it has happened to me 4 years ago
on two alts
and it pisssed me off
so i would neevr do that to another person

because i ragequitted shortly after my two alts were hacked


so masaya please
keep leaving bad feedback with false acusations
please do

Offline WereRen

Re: the alt waitress that was just posted
«Reply #10: February 29, 2012, 04:46:18 PM»
LOL Masaya has always been like this. She thinks she can get people banned easy.

You guys DO realize that she's only like 10, right?

And uh, to you, Masaya. You shouldn't resell an alt right away after getting it, ESPECIALLY for way more.

Believe it or not, you can't threaten people with getting banned. You won't be able to ban people. Neither can you hide behind the Guardian's all of your Furcadia-life. So uh. Stop with the 8 year old tactics. Neither can you give people false feedback/ratings like a kid. xD

Can you like, come back to Furcadia when you get older and mature enough to understand that doing crap like this can give you a really bad rep [enough so nobody will trade with you ever again] and if you try to switch alts/accounts/emails/whatever someone will find out and expose you. Lol

Good day. And stop trying to sound innocent. Really.
« Last Edit: February 29, 2012, 04:55:17 PM by Tano »
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Offline RIKKI

Re: the alt waitress that was just posted
«Reply #11: February 29, 2012, 05:08:38 PM»
This thread is a fucking trainwreck, as is this situation.

Can someone, whether related or unrelated to it, explain this in proper syntax without spewing breadcrumbs onto their monitor?

It's a childish he-said/she-said sort of situation from what I am attempting to grasp at.


Offline Meleana

Re: the alt waitress that was just posted
«Reply #12: February 29, 2012, 05:19:12 PM»
http://i39.tinypic.com/207q6bn.png


screen shot of her whisper
ADMITTING
that she made up that i "Hacked her"


Offline Zim

Re: the alt waitress that was just posted
«Reply #13: February 29, 2012, 05:25:38 PM»
Locked because people can't seem to post in a mature manner. If you have something new or relevant to add that doesn't involve insults or tantrums, pm me.

I'm only mean out of necessity.