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Fairy

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I'm not even sure how to word this
«: June 08, 2008, 05:03:13 PM»
But, have you ever noticed how almost everyone on furcadia and other internet sites, ... are almost all the same?

Like, personally myself, I know I act the same way I do IRL that I do online
- I talk alot, jump around like a faggot, annoy the shit out of people on purpose and stick to a small ammount of friends because I freak out in crouds.

But have you noticed, that ALMOST EVERYONE ON FURC, are social rejects in real life.. somehow act like they are god online?
The quiet types with no friends and refuse to make any friends, troll and have shitloads of friends by choice online.

Then I've also noticed, alot of people online do this.
"Oh, I dont know you, but I hate you" - Why? "Because my friend hates you"
What the fuck? How can you hate someone you dont even have anything against.

There are many other subjects I can touch, but these are the main topics that really confuse me, that I think I do half the time as well.


-Also, this is not a thread where you can come in and point out my faults. I am well aware of them and I can do that myself. If you start shit, I wont even reply, I will simply contact someone to remove you. I'm not going to put up with it.
That is your warning, thanks.

EDIT// This doenst mean you can point out other people either. Leave them alone, this is a gerenal subject.


Offline ADALEINE

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«Reply #1: June 08, 2008, 05:17:27 PM»
I'll hate someone if they've done enough to my friend to make them miserable; this doesn't just go for online shit, because I've got this problem in real life. I honestly believe someone can hate another person without meeting them face-to-face, just hearing shit from a friend.

I don't, personally, care to go out with friends, but the very few I have continue to make me go out with them, and I'm ungrateful for it. They used to just nab me out of the house once a week, but lately it's everyday and I'm starting to get exhausted. Socially retarded, yeah, but I was NEVER interested in hanging out with friends in the first place. Even online, I don't even talk to more than two or three people on a daily basis.

And, what do you mean 'quiet types who refuse to make friends'? Do you know them IRL? Do you know them SO WELL on Furcadia/the internet that you KNOW they lack a personal life? I'm not being rude, believe me, but it irks me when someone goes 'they lack a social life', or 'they're always online'. How do you know? I'm always online via idling, but there's a large chunk of that time I'm never actually here. Someone could very well assume I'm always on, but thanks to my cable, aim, and proxies, I don't have to be.

etc. etc. etc. The 'yous' aren't necessarily directed to you, but a few questions are.

Did you ever notice how there are a lot of sensitive people on the internet?

Offline lolo

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«Reply #2: June 08, 2008, 05:38:07 PM»
I don't act the same Online verses REAL TIME as my type-words come out a lot more jumbled than my mouth words for whatever reason.
I get distracted really easy too and never seem to structure sentences properly rrr!!
(i don't "rrr" IN REAL LIFE either, it's just a noise i liak)

i'm not a social reject, thnx very much: I get out a lot, I prrty and take walks in the park, shopping, go to flea markets, schooling, movies, etcc~~
But the reason I keep a presence online is cause it's easier for me to connect?? I guess. There's tons of cool people (not just on furc, kiddos) rolling around in the internet dust that I'd never have the chance to talk to on the edge of texas where I'm stationed.
I keep my touch-able friends around, and my "internet friends" around and sometimes they're one in the same, so that's always cool.
COMMUNICATION IS AWESOME with tons of different people, etc.



As far as hating people on the internet goes?
It's pretty easy, cause for every awesome person, there are like six billion mongotards that float about and bawww and say some of the dumbest things cause well..it's the internet and somehow they words ain't taken as seriously as they think or something.
humm. how to explain.

There's only a couple of people on Furc I am seriously UGH disgusting i hate-that-dude about, cause GENERALLY i am hella friendly~~
so mostly when I don't like someone, it's not a blinding fury of hate, it's a "you're so dumb, lol"


Online I'm not motherfucking chatty-kathy but I do have a nice circle of fwiends that I stick to. And then there's one or two that I'm like always talkin' to, goddamn.
~~~*HOMIES REPRESENT*~~~
****~KILLA BEEZ 4 LIFE~****

Fairy

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«Reply #3: June 08, 2008, 05:43:29 PM»
As I said, this was no directed at most people. I also noted that I did not know how to word it right, without offending certain people.
- But as you just said Finch, you can hate someone from what your friend tells you. True or not,

People that live near other people online, can tell you how they act. To give you a general impression of that person. So it goes the same with what you just said. It doesnt matter if its true or not, you just said you can hate someone if your friend tellls you things about them. I think

Digital Love

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«Reply #4: June 08, 2008, 06:14:00 PM»
The way I see it, the internet makes it a lot easier for people to be assholes without having to deal with the consequences. How many of the 5 foot dick 'horses' in Furc who touch up the first female they see would ever get to do that irl, as the player? How many of the drama queens in Furc would get away with trolling a certain group of people and not get punched in the face with it?

Anonymity makes it easy. Shy people are often much more open on the net than they are irl simply because they don't have to look someone in the eye. They don't have to worry about how to sit, where to keep their hands during a conversation, don't have to worry about their appearance whatsoever.

Same goes for the dickfaces who think they are gods online. "It's the internet, not important!" Wherever you go, you will hear this quote. Furcadia, forums, games... People think that because there is no physical aspect to it, they can do as they please.

People compensate a lot. Most of the god moders and trolls on the internet ARE socially awkward people. (My ex being one of those types, so I know very well what I talk about here.) They have suffered some sort of mental abuse over the way they look, the things they like, their family... Due to the lack of attention they get in real life, or the large amounts of negative attention, they will try to make up for that online. In Furcadia they can be everything they want to be but never CAN be. Why do you think there are all those STUDS walking around Furcadia with a near constant erection who can please anybody?

Compensatiooonnn.

The internet is also a powerful tool to those who are weak of mind. Some people are true hermits who are too fucked up in the heads to go out and do things. They whine and emo about how unfair life is and they get all their little pleasures and kicks out of harassing people and making others' lives miserable.

The 'friend haters' who have no good reason to hate are usually out to suck up to their bff and make a good impression. "LOOK HOW MUCH I CARE FOR YOU, I EVEN WENT AND TOLD THIS PERSON HOW MUCH I HATE THEM. CAN I HAVE YOUR DIGOS NOW?"

There are very legit reasons for disliking someone who's been... a complete and utter ass to your friend and you stick up for them. If you've seen what went on and you give that person a proper piece of mind, then I don't mind - at least you know why you hate them and you can give an explanation. Those who say they 'just do' are only out for the status it gives them.

Lastly, I'm a lot irl like I'm online. A bit shyer, probably, but I say and do the same crazy things irl as I do online. I love to snuggle up to my friends and I randomly abuse them too. <.< Ahem. With utmost love of course. <3

Over the past 7 years of being online I go by my gut feelings. If something feels off to me, 9 out of 10 times it is. When I don't like someone from first encounter, 9 out of 10 times they will prove to me why I don't like them. I've dated a social reject, I've tried to befriend them and I've given them more chances than I care to remember - in the end, they are hopeless cases who don't care about you and are just out to get their jollies from the net because they can't do dick outside of it.

That's my view on things.

Offline Hugo

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«Reply #5: June 08, 2008, 07:00:06 PM»
I've come to see that most people act the opposite of themselves online. Being anonymous is like being powerful to them.

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Offline Gengar

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«Reply #6: June 08, 2008, 07:10:48 PM»
I can and will vouch for Sadil, completely.

Heck, I'm a culprit of some of being a total *insert bad word* to others on the internet, because no one can do squat about it, and at other times, am the victim. I guess it all depends on the situation, and how you react to it.

I, myself, am sort of a hermit, and have legit reasons to be such. I am not saying it justifies anything I do or say, but a reason is a reason, and its better than saying "just because".

My situation is somewhat similar to what both Gage and Sadil mentioned. I like the internet, for the most part, because of your ability to do things you normally wouldn't in real life, and not pay as hefty a price for it, if any. If someone harasses you, the best thing that can happen is that they are banned from the internet. Ooh, scary, right? Now, in certain situations, (don't quote me on this), there are real life consequences for what you do online. If you steal art, or do something illegal on the internet(depending on the country or providence you are in), the 'victim' has the choice, depending on the crime, so to speak, to get a lawyer and take the person(s) to court. I'm no law specialist, but it is well-known that there can be, and in some cases WILL be, real life consequences for your online actions.

Why people are so similar online can be taken in several ways. In my point of view, and this is probably many peoples', is that just because we are all unique, doesn't mean we don't have similarities. I'm not a biologist or whatever, but I can tell you that there isn't one person in the world who does not have at least one similarity, if not more, with another person. It's human nature. No one person can be completely and utterly unique in every way. If we were, we wouldn't be human, and even if we were all different species, we'd STILL have some sort of connection or similarity to another specie. But I'm getting off-topic.

As a therapist of mine said, humans are naturally social creatures, and need, if not sometimes crave, attention, whether it be positive or negative. The internet is one of many ways to get just that.

Also, a commonly used explanation for the internet, mostly used by me in my life (that is why I say commonly used), is people do things "because they can". That's a major, MAJOR reason why people do things, a lot of the time. I'm a big culprit of this. Humans, just like they need to socialize, do something, whether it be bad or good, mainly for the sake of being able to do it. It's a VERY common thing. I remember reading a paragraph in a book, that explained this. I guess a way to summarize this would be "opportunity". If you had an opportunity, most likely leading to the benefit of you or someone else, you would take it, right? No one in their right mind would turn down such an option, unless, and this is something many people disregard, if the consequences of taking the opportunity were higher than the 'reward' resulting from doing it.

Everything has some amount of consequences, both good and bad, though many people choose to ignore the bad ones, and get, in some way, punished for doing so. It's just like a quarter. There are always two, maybe more, sides to an action, and depending on it, may result in a larger amount of good consequences, or bad.

Life is what you make of it. The possibilities are nearly endless, and this plays a big part as to why people live. Whatever the reasons of living for each individual are, it concludes to mostly the same thing. The preparation, the experience, and the result are the three major things (not saying there isn't more) that people live for. If one or all of these things didn't exist, there would practically be no reason to live for. And the internet is closely related to that. Certain options may be available for someone on the internet that aren't available in real life.

In conclusion, opportunity is the reason why most, if not all, people live. It all depends on how you use the opportunity, and that can change your life, whether it be for good, or for worse.

I thank everyone who took the time to read all this babble, and I hope I have enlightened at least one person by typing this out.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.


Gengar

Black Rain

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«Reply #7: June 08, 2008, 08:02:34 PM»
The reason I am silent and don't care to make friends is because, I don't feel like making friends and oftenly, I don't feel like talking much. Doesn't make me a social reject. Just different. And last I heard. You can't be hated for being different unless you are racist or sexist or just plain ignorant and imature.

Digital Love

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«Reply #8: June 08, 2008, 08:06:13 PM»
I don't think some people understand well.

There's nothing wrong with being socially awkward, a social reject or whatever else negative there is listed in this topic - that by itself is irrelevant. When you start to act like an ass to compensate for it, then what's written in these replies applies.

The point of this thread is to describe and give an opinion on how people act online. There just happen to be reasons why people display that kind of behavior. Being a social reject is one of them.

But that's not a bad thing until the consequence of that fact is a bad one.

Offline Altria

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«Reply #9: June 09, 2008, 10:10:22 PM»
I agree with the general consensus that the anonymity of the internet makes things easier for people, whether their intentions are good or bad. I just have my fun and laugh at the people who feel the need to make up for the things they lack by being douchebags.

While I don't play Furc much anymore, I enjoy the internet because there's a wide variety of things to entertain me. If I get bored, I do something else. It's not like I don't have friends in real life - I most certainly do - it's just that I've never been the kind of person who thinks going to parties and getting drunk or something as a means of social status was attractive - and the majority of my friends are the same. I'm not a reject, I just enjoy different ways of having fun.

Social reject is a subjective term, so I'm not sure how accurate someone can really be when they assume things like that online.
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Digital Love

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«Reply #10: June 10, 2008, 05:07:27 AM»
I agree with you Haruno. I hate going out to clubs and bars because I don't like drinking much, and the majority of the people you meet are usually drunk or even high on drugs. Putting that aside they also get touchy too much. <_< I'm definitely not the kind of slutty person who goes to smooch and grope every other stranger like my sister does.

She says she worries for me because I'm 'anti-social'. She doesn't understand that I do like a good party and going out to do things, it's just the kind of people she hangs out with aren't the kind of people I like hanging out with.

The people who share my interests are people who like hanging around the internet like I do. I'd much rather type an interesting conversation about things I like, such as coding or debates about topics, than I would sit with a bunch of other girls talking shoes and makeup that doesn't interest me at all. I'm already spoken for when it comes to love (1 year anni in a few weeks, whoo!) so I definitely don't need to go out to find that in a bar.

In a way this makes me a social reject too, no? I won't drink, I won't do drugs, I won't smoke, I won't go out and shop for clothes, I won't hang around in a bar.... Hell, I even shop for most of my clothes online (way cheaper).

If I want to go out I call one of my few close friends and ask if they want to go to a movie with me and have a nice dinner at one of our favorite restaurants afterwards. We go bowling, hiking, camping...

I kind of forgot my point now though... I think I drifted a bit far from the subject. <.<

Offline Julie

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«Reply #11: June 10, 2008, 01:55:47 PM»
anyone who knows me irl, knows that i dont like talking a lot. i rarely yell. i cant tell a joke for my life, because i start giggling and snorting because i cant hold it back. even if someone says or does something thats not OMGHILLARIOUS, i cant help but crack up (gage can vouch for this, just yesterday on the phone). my words are jumbled up most of the time, and sometimes i cant pronounce a word correctly or i cant figure out how to word my sentences. a lot of people call me soft-spoken, and really, thats what i am most of the time.

i tl;dr'd most of this, sorry if i say something already said that i hadnt read ;; i'll re-read when im not in summer school

though i may have a lot of friends online, im not a social reject. but thats not the point i think gage was trying to make. i think he was trying to make the point that people are usually the complete opposite of what they are online (as hugo said, i think. i skimmed most of the page).

so, by that example, if you have a huge group of friends online, chances are you probably dont have as many.

i agree wholeheartedly with what sadil said. basically what i got from it, being anonymous makes you feel like a 'god'.

though i rarely get that feeling, the internet is an easier way to express myself without worrying about what  my voice sounds like, if people will ridicule me for what im wearing, if they dont like my face, etc. and it also allows me to re-word my sentences as i please, so i dont sound fucking stupid 90% of the time.

also, as i believe sadil said, face-to-face can be intimidating for most people, and makes it incredibly hard for them to stand up for themselves, talk about something, etcetc.

i think this is basically me just rewording everything sadil said LOL

<3sadil

Matti

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«Reply #12: June 10, 2008, 04:01:11 PM»
I agree with the original poster. Not much to say that hasn't been said.
Though I do find it a little amusing that people assume that the way you act on the internet is how you act off it. I'm totally different offline than I am on, for whatever the reason.

Offline Altria

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«Reply #13: June 10, 2008, 04:28:50 PM»
Yeah, Sadil, I agree with you on the majority of what you said - but I love shopping. XD That's one thing I'll definitely drag some friends to the mall to do.

It's not like you find very many good love prospects in a bar, anyhow. If you're looking for a good person, I think you need to check outside the bars and the clubs - the majority of people in there are just looking for a quickie, if you know what I mean. I have a friend like your sister, too. Occasionally she rags on me for never going with her to clubs, but I think I worry about her more than she does me.

@ Matti: You're right - not everyone is the same online and off. Sometimes it's just easier to express yourself since you're able to think what you want to type. I'm pretty much the same IRL as I am online, but since I'm kind of shy around new people in real life, I tend to blurt things out and look silly, but on here I can have a bit longer to think, and I can be silly without worries.  :wink:
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Offline Belial

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«Reply #14: June 11, 2008, 05:47:16 PM»
I'm probably more of an asshole offline because I can trip people and shit. Also, everyone acts like their god online when their balls haven't dropped yet.

Offline Tony

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«Reply #15: June 11, 2008, 06:47:50 PM»
Quote from: "Dai"
I'm probably more of an asshole offline because I can trip people and shit. Also, everyone acts like their god online when their balls haven't dropped yet.


Same. But my balls have dropped! If you're talking about others, then maybe they should go pull on them a bit and they'll drop faster.  :oops:

Offline Billie

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«Reply #16: July 18, 2008, 02:09:59 AM»
i act the same way i act online.
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im probably a little nicer irl though ;)

Offline Jax

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«Reply #17: July 19, 2008, 08:31:31 PM»
I've noticed that for a lot of people, online is almost like an.. advantage.. to maybe having been shy, or.. lonely even, IRL.

There's some people who maybe just don't fit in right or make friends very well in the environment they live in, and online could be a back-up life (Or 'Second Life' seeing that there's a game that's taken it that far.. >>). There are literally thousands of different types of people online. They probably find it easier to be 'themselves' or even 'someone else' towards these people, because they don't actually know them. Maybe a reflection of what they -want- to be, etc.

Though, in the asshole category, that could come from maybe not being treated right, IRL? People beat on them and pick on them; they could possibly be too giddy or scared to do anything about it IRL so they stomp their butt to the computer and kick people on Furc? Or, they just find online as an advantage to be Godly, who knows?

There's so many possibilities for the strange ways a lot of people act online. I'm almost sure a good majority of the people online aren't the same as they are offline.

As for me, IRL I'm a bit distant with people.. Have a friend here and there, and that's my choice. On Furc, I love to be surrounded by people and just be spaztastic! 8D I feel like, in my case, that's because IRL is the time to keep your head in gear and do things right, and online, Furc, everything else -- is to just let your mind ease (In whatever way it eases best, which could go from harassing people on Furc, or just sitting around chatting.)

Offline Cardali

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«Reply #18: July 20, 2008, 02:16:42 AM»
okay well i only read some of this, so sorry if this has been stated before or whatever, but in all honesty that's tl;dr and i blame it on my laziness.

personally, i think some people put up a front online. you know, they create a personality because on the internet you can be whoever you want to be and nobody would be any the wiser. hence the reason so many pedophiles get away with what they do - the internet is completely anonymous and you can lie and cheat and deceive and -NO ONE- will know. that doesn't necessarily mean that everyone does it - 98% of the people you meet online won't do that. but (and here's the -but-) there's that 2% that will. some people are completely different online then they are offline, and they probably have their reasons for doing so. but like some people before have said, they might 'fit in' better with an online community. i'm not an online hermit crab per se, but i've met a lot of awesome people via online - and not just furc - and i never would have met them were it not for the internet. think about it - places like eHarmony and Match.com make their entire revenue off the internet. people who meet in chat rooms get married. people who meet in FURCADIA get married - case in point, Emerald Flame and her husband (can't remember if it's Cironir or talzhemir). site like HotOrNot claim to have made matches too. i'm kinda rambling here, but anyways.

the point is that being online is an escape for some people - if you've had a hard day at work or w/e it's nice to come online and have your friends say hello and cheer you up. personally i have a pretty wide circle of friends, and i'm always open to meeting new people. which is basically like i am in real life - although come to think of it, i'm a bit more paranoid offline than i am online. eh. it depends on the person when it comes right down to it, and you shouldn't judge anyone based on their online personality - they could be like Matti, and be COMPLETELY different IRL than they are online. there's nothing wrong with that.

not everyone online has no social life, either. i know people who play furc who are almost never online -because- of their social lives. that's not a bad thing, and neither is not being a total social butterfly. again, everyon'es different. i have a social life, but it doesn't envelop me - and neither does my online life.

as far as people being assholes go, some people just like to be like that. some people are really fucking paranoid - maybe they have good reason to be. maybe they've been bullied. but it doesn't give them the right to treat everyone like shit. again, depends on the person. that 2% may feel like they need to put up a tough-guy front, or whatever. some people are just naturally mean. w/e. i could really care less, haha.

end rant, i guess. i agree with what Digital said though.

Offline Billie

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«Reply #19: July 20, 2008, 10:06:20 PM»
some people just don't take the internet seriously.

personally, i use furcadia as an 'escape' from the real world in a way..

Offline Cardali

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«Reply #20: July 20, 2008, 10:07:40 PM»
Quote from: "Billie"
some people just don't take the internet seriously.

personally, i use furcadia as an 'escape' from the real world in a way..


you are forgetting.

THE INERNET IS SRS BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!111!1!!

that really annoys me though, when people take crap too seriously or they can't take a joke.

Offline Jax

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«Reply #21: July 20, 2008, 10:11:44 PM»
True that, and it also comes along with the way people look at using the net. There's a majority of people who are online for fun, a majority who are on it for buisness, and then a little bit of both. Depending on the 'category' (Not being stereotypical, just wording it the best I can) you're under, you'll either be online with your own identity, your own personality, or something totally different.

Black Rain

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«Reply #22: July 21, 2008, 05:59:33 AM»
Quote from: "Dai"
I'm probably more of an asshole offline because I can trip people and shit. Also, everyone acts like their god online when their balls haven't dropped yet.


Some people do act macho and tough and stuff online because they believe that they can get away with anything because, they are online. No one knows them behind the screen unless it's a family member or friend or, some one they told about themselves. The thing is, they don't realise that thier e-penis is not as large as the one they have IR. Of course for the females. There is no e-penis. Just e-pms.

Digital Love

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«Reply #23: July 21, 2008, 06:49:18 AM»
Quote from: "Nikky"
Quote from: "Billie"
some people just don't take the internet seriously.

personally, i use furcadia as an 'escape' from the real world in a way..


you are forgetting.

THE INERNET IS SRS BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!111!1!!

that really annoys me though, when people take crap too seriously or they can't take a joke.


I agree, sometimes people get too upset over something trivial, but in the long run I think some people take that too far. A joke is good and brushing things off proves for an easier online life. Nonetheless, some people use this as an excuse to be downright assholes and justify everything they do with "THE INERNET IS SRS BUSINESS!!!!!!!11".

It really doesn't work that way, internet or not. It wouldn't fly if you said certain things to someone straight in the face, so to me someone being an asshole and then telling others to 'brush it off' because it doesn't matter, is just someone who is too much of a chicken in real life and needs to feel powerful online.

Of course there are things that go way out of line. There's a long list of names most people on here will recognize instantly to be Furcadia's biggest drama queens who REALLY go far beyond the norm for acceptable drama. But generally speaking I think people use the 'internet is srs business' line a bit too lightly. It's still a real person and the internet is only a different way of communicating with that real person. Common courtesy shouldn't be lost just because you can't see that person's face or touch them.

Offline Militant

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«Reply #24: July 21, 2008, 11:29:16 AM»
I act like God on and offline... it's just who I am. o_o

Naw, but I see where you're coming from with this. I've seen the people who act all high and mighty then you clickie their piccie and they're some 300 pound goth chick who likes beastiality... But oh, well. That's just the internet for you. You can say whatever you want and you can be whoever you want. Let 'em do it, if it helps them sleep at night.
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