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Offline Vux

Scammer - Cattle
«: December 31, 2007, 11:08:07 PM»
I've been trying to figure out what happened here and how I ended up loosing more alts then I bargained for, so heres the story from the top  - hope someone can help me out..

I traded my old alt Animalistic for the alt Anybody with Squeaky

Once I've gained Anybody - I revived a PM from a user named Raider on FAM
Saying he/she wanted to Trade for anybody.

[the PM]
From:     Raider
To:    Vux
Posted:    March 27, 2007, 9:38 pm
Subject:    Alt    Quote message
Im on rhino right now if youd like to whisper me
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So I log on furc to do the trade
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Creed: Heres one of them
VuxZanpire: ooooh
VuxZanpire: My type of port xD
Downslide: You want this one xD
Riiki: Theres this one
VuxZanpire: o.o
VuxZanpire: RIIKI!
Riiki: xD
Riiki: Riiki gave me this alt
VuxZanpire: o.o
VuxZanpire: he must of got Riki like he said.. no wonder he wasn't on
Riiki: No he quit
VuxZanpire: omg T_T
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Riiki: People said he stole art when he didnt
Heads: Theres this one
VuxZanpire: wow...
VuxZanpire: lolz nice name
Creed: Mhm
VuxZanpire eyes Riiki >.>
Riiki: Want Riiki ? o.o
VuxZanpire: Kinda
Riiki: I'd trade this and downslide for Anybdy
Riiki: Anybody*
VuxZanpire: Really? o.o
VuxZanpire: Pls
Riiki: I would
VuxZanpire gives password x3
VuxZanpire: wait how do we do this o.o?
Riiki: Ill give one then you the i give the other
Riiki: sooo riiki = lolpft
[M] VuxZanpire asks you to have a trading session. To accept the request, type trade-start and press .
Riiki waits o.o
VuxZanpire: what like the pass words or the character ini's?
Riiki: passwords
Riiki: i gave you riikis
Riiki: go to
Heads: http://www.furcadia.com/services/retrieve/retrieve.php4
Riiki: to gt the ini file
Anybody: ooh gotcha
Riiki: did you get riiki?
VuxZanpire: one sec x.x
Riiki: ok
Anybody: =g0i9v8e7n6
Anybody: minus =
Anybody: x3

Session closed 2007-03-27 20:06:57

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After I few days.
[logs] [had to cut down because of length]


 Aura: im 24
VuxZanpire: >:
VuxZanpire: Still young? xD
Aura: thanks,
Downslide: roar
Downslide: you make sexy sexy patches :-)
VuxZanpire: o:
(You see Downslide)
>
Aura plays 21. .:G Gundam - Trust You Forever:.
VuxZanpire: what cha doing on my alt D:<
Aura: vux
Aura: lets go somewhere else.
VuxZanpire: x.x he's on my alt!
Downslide: O_O
Downslide: what what?
VuxZanpire: that you rhino?
Aura: hes on your alt?
Downslide: I bought this alt from Damage :<
Aura: damage?
Downslide: yes.
VuxZanpire: I bought it
VuxZanpire: D:<
Downslide: O.O
Aura: When, Vux?
Downslide: I can show you logs.. if you want?
VuxZanpire: From Rhino
VuxZanpire: When did you buy it?
Downslide: last nigt
Downslide: night*
VuxZanpire: wtf
Downslide: for my alt bradley.
Downslide: He grouped some alts together.
Aura: .....you traded downslide for bradley
VuxZanpire: x.x its mine,, its even on my list
Downslide: no.
VuxZanpire: Damage gave it to you?
Aura: who is this damage chikka?
VuxZanpire: well sold it"
VuxZanpire: >:
Aura: sounds like a haxor
Downslide: No- I traded. Bradley for: Downslide, Lampshade, Manure, Ketia, Chacra.
Aura plays 22. .:Gravitation - Glaring Dream:.
Aura: ....
Aura: ketia
Aura: chacra??
Aura: lampshade?!
VuxZanpire: >.< Downslides mine
Aura: are you dumb or something
Downslide: .. Their ports are sexy.
Aura: oh
VuxZanpire: here I'll show you, I'll boot you xP
[ Fire Rim whispers, "are you back yet or what?" to you. ]
Downslide: ?
VuxZanpire: what the @$!?
VuxZanpire: the pass was changed?
Downslide: ...
Aura: he probably changed the password
VuxZanpire: T_T
  • Model requests permission to join your company. To accept the request, type `summon and press . To decline, type `decline and press

Downslide: .. I did after I bought it from him.
[ You whisper "one sec we have an alt scam x.x" to Model. ]
[ Model whispers, "o.o" to you. ]
Downslide: Let me get Damage here.
Downslide: And he can explain?
Downslide: [ Damage whispers, "its my alt iv owned it for months" to you. ] [ Damage whispers, "until i traded it to you" to you. ]
Downslide: ..
Aura: o_o
apple butter5: hi tiff
apple butter5: wuts up
Tiffs: hi ap
Tiffs: nm u
apple butter5: lol ap
VuxZanpire: I've been scammed twice by Rhine now..
VuxZanpire: this is bull @$!?
Tiffs: brb ap i do mi hair rly fast.
apple butter5: fine
apple butter5: =(
Aura: lol vux
Downslide: ... o_o is rhino damage?
Aura: dont trade with rhino
VuxZanpire: idk?
Aura plays 23. .:Gravitation - Shining Collection:.
apple butter5: im gona go afk bcuz i wana watc tv
Downslide: u.u Bradley only had 1 port on it and ... I posted it on FAM and people were offering @$!?- and I wanted ported alts so.. that's why I traded him, not because I'm stupid :P
[ Model whispers, "Again?" to you. ]
Aura: rhino is a @$!?%
apple butter5: lol
apple butter5: lol
Tiffs: k im gunn just blowdry hair
Downslide: ugh.. I feel awful grumble grumble.
Aura: is rhino a chick vux
Aura: is rhino a chick vux
Aura: if so i know her
apple butter5: im gona watch dora
Aura: she has an ugly $!? port
Downslide: [ Damage whispers, "he hasent owned the alt for 6 months" to you. ]
VuxZanpire: Onle to find out Riiki was stolen and Downslide was owned x.x
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Aura: who owned riiki?
VuxZanpire: Goddamnit
Aura: this is why i dont alt trade
VuxZanpire looks down
Downslide: Hmm :<
VuxZanpire: I'm reporting this
VuxZanpire: D:<
VuxZanpire: Whats your main Ds? just for refference?
[ You whisper "yeah" to Model. ]
VuxZanpire: and and I'm glad you like my alts
Downslide: my main = triton
VuxZanpire: k
VuxZanpire: I mean patches xD
Downslide: :P
Downslide: I really hope I don't get in the middle of this :<
Downslide: and end up getting banned or some @$!?.
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VuxZanpire: me too ):< Rhinos going to get some Bs soon from alllooot of people
[ Damage whispers, "Hello?" to you. ]
Aura plays 24. .:Gravitation - Sleepless Beauty:.
apple butter5: lol fune
VuxZanpire: You won't
VuxZanpire: don't worry, if you just bought the alt nothing can be done xP
VuxZanpire: I just want my money back
Downslide: He keeps saying that you hadn't owned it in six months
apple butter5: k
Downslide: [9:47:53 PM] Damage: he hasent owned it for 6 months [9:47:58 PM] Downslide: hmm [9:48:06 PM] Damage: it was on my email util i traded it to you
VuxZanpire: I just got Downslide on the 27th
Downslide: Vux
apple butter5: kl
[ Damage whispers, "Hey, you say you own downslide" to you. ]
Downslide: damage says to whisper him
Aura plays 25. .:Gravitation - Spicy Marmalade:.
uk man: pplwill have to pay 200 pounds to get in lol you get in free
Downslide: [9:50:12 PM] Damage: tell him to talk to me
apple butter5: *pays 200 pounds to get in*
Tiffs also
uk man: cya later apple butters and ill remember you if i se yopu again ill transport you to my village when its made
apple butter5: ok bi
apple butter5: hi im olly
apple butter5: wow
apple butter5: tif did u no how to sit down
apple butter5: i just fund out tats kl lol
Tiffs: i cuddl u appl
apple butter5: cool i can lay down
Tiffs: CUDDL MI BAK
apple butter5: cuddles u bak
apple butter5: vux
apple butter5: r u ther
apple butter5: vux dnt ignor me
apple butter5: :~(:~(:~(:~(
Aura plays 26. .:Gravitation - Super Drive:.
apple butter5: lol
[ You whisper "Yes I do" to Damage. ]
[ You whisper "D:<" to Damage. ]
[ You whisper "I bought him for Rhino" to Damage. ]
[ You whisper "from**" to Damage. ]
[ You whisper "Want logs?" to Damage. ]
[ Damage whispers, "Actally I did until I traded it.It was on my email as of yesturday." to you. ]
[ You whisper "Thenwhy did Rhino sell it to me?" to Damage. ]
(You see Downslide)
>
[ Damage whispers, "No idea, but it's my alt, I have owned it more than 6 months." to you. ]
[ Damage whispers, "They won't do anything for you." to you. ]
Model: Ill kill whoever scammed you >[
apple butter5: hi mod
[ You whisper "I've owned him a since the 27th of last month" to Damage. ]
[&] 7:57:29 PM Player Model is online.
[ Damage whispers, "That's not 6 months." to you. ]
[ You whisper "Yes, I'd like him back ): cuz I payed for him" to Damage. ]
[ Damage whispers, "Talk to rhino for a refund." to you. ]
[ You whisper "Bull shit" to Damage. ]
(You see Downslide)
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Aura plays 27. .:Gravitation - The Rage Beat:.
[ Damage whispers, "The alt is in owner ship of me." to you. ]
VuxZanpire: Downslide mind logging off for a sec ^^?
[ Damage whispers, "I have owned it for 6 months." to you. ]
Downslide: Sure?
[ You whisper "So?" to Damage. ]
[ Damage whispers, "You "owing" it for 3 days does nothing." to you. ]
[ Damage whispers, ""owning"" to you. ]
[ You whisper "Its mine cuz I payed for him ): I suggest you talk to Rhino
[ Damage whispers, "Like i said talk to rhino about a refund" to you. ]
[ You whisper "Personally I think you two are bull shitting me" to Damage. ]
[ Damage whispers, "How so?" to you. ]
[ Damage whispers, "The alt was on my email." to you. ]
[ You whisper "Do you know rhino?" to Damage. ]
VuxZanpire: @$!?ing a They jacked my alt
Aura: After all I offered her
Avita: D<
Avita: Who did!?
Model: Ill
Model: Kill
Model: Them.
Avita will too ;(
Model sharpens knife and gets out a virtual gat HRT
Model: XD
Avita: Well I will if you stop ignoring me, Vux. D:
VuxZanpire: Apparently Damage said he "owes" him when I bought him
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So at the end I could no longer log on to Riiki , Downslide and got ripped from Anybody and no longer had Animalistic x3

Suspect -
Rhino/ Raider
idk about Damage

I know this is old, but I recently had word from a friend that they have seen Raider/Rhino about, as well as Anybody, who ever may own this alt now. And Besides that - I'd really like my alts back. ^^''

Thanks ahead of time for the info and help!


Offline Julie

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #1: December 31, 2007, 11:18:27 PM»
when were the first logs? back in march?

because i have Riiki now o_o;

and um, I got it from Ryu

paid for it an all :l

right now i'm about to trade it for an alt I've wanted for... ages

Rhino is Gage's again, too. And i doubt gage is Raider ;]

Offline Vux

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #2: December 31, 2007, 11:35:52 PM»
Okay, I got some new info.

Is Damage ACTAULLY Raider?

Offline Hollen

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #3: December 31, 2007, 11:49:30 PM»
To my knowledge yes.

Tala

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #4: January 01, 2008, 02:56:07 AM»
Damage has been Boss on FAM for a while now... the alt expired thanks to me clearing the ports from the alt at the request of Boss... I'm sad to see that the person who owns damage now isn't trying to clear its rep.. unless its a past dama owner they are talking about.

Offline Hollen

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #5: January 01, 2008, 03:32:21 AM»
The past one Damage/Boss

Subsequently they owe me 127 dollars and the alt Mange back. Plenty of loose ends with that guy.

Tala

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #6: January 01, 2008, 11:11:41 AM»
The alt mange is on Perma Ban from furcadia as are Ajax, Bio and Critical thanks to him scamming a friend of mine outta Life bats she got them but those alts are still banned.

Dark, if you talk to Cir he might unban mange for you and return ownership of it to you, just email him and find out.

Offline Mychelle

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #7: January 01, 2008, 12:32:33 PM»
This same guy also tried to basically 'scam' me saying he was going to use my port that I commissioned from his current girlfriend at the time without my permission as well. He is constantly doing shady shit like this as far as I have seen and Im honestly not surprised he's continuing. Im sure there will be others to come along to support this opinion.
Im letting my alts rot. So dont ask.

Offline Hollen

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #8: January 01, 2008, 01:25:08 PM»
Quote from: "TK"
The alt mange is on Perma Ban from furcadia as are Ajax, Bio and Critical thanks to him scamming a friend of mine outta Life bats she got them but those alts are still banned.

Dark, if you talk to Cir he might unban mange for you and return ownership of it to you, just email him and find out.


I'm the one who bought the life bats :/ It was all a big scam by Damage and in the end I wanted Rainz to get her wings back so I bought her some. Thats why he owe's me 127 dollars.

Pretty much he traded me wings that weren't his and my main was frozen. I tried to talk to Cironir about it and he flat out ignored me so in the end all I could do was buy Rainz life bats to get my main unfrozen. Pretty much I had to pay Damage's debt if I wanted Claw unfrozen.

Offline Pidgeon

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #9: January 01, 2008, 01:41:04 PM»
I think Raider actually owned the alt Rhino at one point in time too. You could have been talking to the same person as Rhino and Raider. *Shrugs.* Raider scammed me out of 2 spaces a looong time ago, then he had another loose end deal for my tablet. I'm glad I didn't actually send the tablet beforehand like I was going to.

Also, did you change the e-mail and password? First e-mail, then password to the alt. That's usually how these things happen. Someone forgets to do the setemail command, and the new password is still in the hands of the previous owner.
<3

Offline Vux

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #10: January 01, 2008, 02:36:20 PM»
Quote from: "Nev"
I think Raider actually owned the alt Rhino at one point in time too. You could have been talking to the same person as Rhino and Raider. *Shrugs.* Raider scammed me out of 2 spaces a looong time ago, then he had another loose end deal for my tablet. I'm glad I didn't actually send the tablet beforehand like I was going to.

Also, did you change the e-mail and password? First e-mail, then password to the alt. That's usually how these things happen. Someone forgets to do the setemail command, and the new password is still in the hands of the previous owner.


I think thats what may have happened
Seems this person who ever it was at the time is a big time scammer, and I'm wondering who and what there main was or is now

Do you think furc mods can help me out? - I don't wish for riiki back seeing the new owner is a friend of mine thats neutral to this mess.

Offline Cigarette

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #11: January 01, 2008, 03:29:55 PM»
Quote from: "Mychelle"
This same guy also tried to basically 'scam' me saying he was going to use my port that I commissioned from his current girlfriend at the time without my permission as well. He is constantly doing shady shit like this as far as I have seen and Im honestly not surprised he's continuing. Im sure there will be others to come along to support this opinion.


*wooshes in to support*
contacts: cigarette.

Offline Hollen

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #12: January 01, 2008, 04:43:46 PM»
To explain it IS Damage

How he had Rhino at the time is simple. The whole Malyce/Damage/Gage Rhino scam awhile back gave Damage access to the alt when it was supposed to be in Malyce's possession as he was able to get onto most of her alts. Raider is ONE of Damage's many aliases.

So Raider/Rhino was Damage

Tala

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #13: January 01, 2008, 04:49:54 PM»
The old owner of Damage (boss) no longer gets on furcadia to my knowledge.

Offline Vux

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #14: January 01, 2008, 04:50:29 PM»
Quote from: "Dark"
To explain it IS Damage

How he had Rhino at the time is simple. The whole Malyce/Damage/Gage Rhino scam awhile back gave Damage access to the alt when it was supposed to be in Malyce's possession as he was able to get onto most of her alts. Raider is ONE of Damage's many aliases.

So Raider/Rhino was Damage


So who is this person now? -still rhino or raider?
I don't think the current owner of Damage, being Sookan, would do that.

Offline Julie

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #15: January 01, 2008, 05:04:12 PM»
okay.

Gage gave Malyce Rhino as payment, I think. Malyce and Damage were, at the time, together. Malyce was unable to be on furcaida for personal reasons, and Damage hacked all her alts, got most of them banned. Damage was, for a very short time, Rhino. Gage got Rhino back and unfrozen. Rhino is Gage.

i think that's basically the malyce/damage/gage situation in a nutshell.

Offline Vux

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #16: January 01, 2008, 05:06:53 PM»
Quote from: "Julie"
okay.

Gage gave Malyce Rhino as payment, I think. Malyce and Damage were, at the time, together. Malyce was unable to be on furcaida for personal reasons, and Damage hacked all her alts, got most of them banned. Damage was, for a very short time, Rhino. Gage got Rhino back and unfrozen. Rhino is Gage.

i think that's basically the malyce/damage/gage situation in a nutshell.


you know how many times I had to read that over xD?

[edited] wrongly accused :evil:

Offline Julie

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #17: January 01, 2008, 05:17:38 PM»
Quote from: "Vux"
Quote from: "Julie"
okay.

Gage gave Malyce Rhino as payment, I think. Malyce and Damage were, at the time, together. Malyce was unable to be on furcaida for personal reasons, and Damage hacked all her alts, got most of them banned. Damage was, for a very short time, Rhino. Gage got Rhino back and unfrozen. Rhino is Gage.

i think that's basically the malyce/damage/gage situation in a nutshell.


you know how many times I had to read that over xD?

So the scammer at the time was - Gage?


ohshi--NONONONO XD;

I dont need to get gage in unneccesary trouble

the scammer was Damage at the time.

Gage got Rhino back because Malyce was unable to give him payment.

sorry, i was probably too unclear @@;

Offline Hollen

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #18: January 01, 2008, 07:22:09 PM»
Damage is now Cattle, he's listed on FAM. Drop him a message and feel free to ask him, he will lie as much as possible but it IS him.

Tala

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #19: January 01, 2008, 08:08:15 PM»
Sookan is Damage now, and I know 100% Sookan is not the Boss Damage. I know because the Boss Damage wouldn't be bitching at me to get his ports back if he had the alt XD

Sookan

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #20: January 02, 2008, 07:30:12 AM»
ok so... ok.

im the new owner of damage. let me make this 100% clear: im not cleaning up other people's messes. i will tell everyone who meets on that alt what happened as many times as they ask, but im not going pro-active in trying to solve their shit.

off topic, but im glad you're still trying to get the ports back, TK. for the record i am explaining to people who ask why i have them.

anyway im just here to clear this up:

Quote
Downslide: I bought this alt from Damage :<
Aura: damage?
Downslide: yes.
VuxZanpire: I bought it
VuxZanpire: D:<
Downslide: O.O
Aura: When, Vux?
Downslide: I can show you logs.. if you want?
VuxZanpire: From Rhino
VuxZanpire: When did you buy it?
Downslide: last nigt
Downslide: night*


im assuming that vux posted this topic pretty much immediately after the event?
if so it is impossible for that person(downslide) to have bought downslide from damage since damage has been mine since november.

i might be getting confused here, ive only skimmed over the thread so correct me if i got something mixed up. if Downslide meant Chris had given him the alt then for all i know he is probably right, but i am not Chris and damage has been my alt for ... well, here's his `info: Created on: 2007-10-19/20:00:16/Fri

and even before that the alt would have been in it's "expiring" stage having had the ports removed and being frozen for about 3 months, if im not mistaken.


haha thanks Vux. you're right - i wouldnt. its not in my best interests to scam people, since then no one would trade/commission me.
anyone that dares to scam with a community as tenacious as FAM around is suicidal imo.



hope that clears things up on my end anyway. good luck vux.

Offline Vux

Scammer - Cattle
«Reply #21: January 02, 2008, 02:19:07 PM»
Quote from: "Sookan"
ok so... ok.

im the new owner of damage. let me make this 100% clear: im not cleaning up other people's messes. i will tell everyone who meets on that alt what happened as many times as they ask, but im not going pro-active in trying to solve their shit.

off topic, but im glad you're still trying to get the ports back, TK. for the record i am explaining to people who ask why i have them.

anyway im just here to clear this up:

Quote
Downslide: I bought this alt from Damage :<
Aura: damage?
Downslide: yes.
VuxZanpire: I bought it
VuxZanpire: D:<
Downslide: O.O
Aura: When, Vux?
Downslide: I can show you logs.. if you want?
VuxZanpire: From Rhino
VuxZanpire: When did you buy it?
Downslide: last nigt
Downslide: night*


im assuming that vux posted this topic pretty much immediately after the event?
if so it is impossible for that person(downslide) to have bought downslide from damage since damage has been mine since november.

i might be getting confused here, ive only skimmed over the thread so correct me if i got something mixed up. if Downslide meant Chris had given him the alt then for all i know he is probably right, but i am not Chris and damage has been my alt for ... well, here's his `info: Created on: 2007-10-19/20:00:16/Fri

and even before that the alt would have been in it's "expiring" stage having had the ports removed and being frozen for about 3 months, if im not mistaken.


haha thanks Vux. you're right - i wouldnt. its not in my best interests to scam people, since then no one would trade/commission me.
anyone that dares to scam with a community as tenacious as FAM around is suicidal imo.



hope that clears things up on my end anyway. good luck vux.


oh no no I stated that this was old as dirt - I just got whisper logs that my friend saw Anyone - the minute they were whispered bout this event they logged off so we know the perp is still around (:
..Anyway I'll take your alt off the topic so people don't start attacking the wrong person :evil:

Ps - If I had money I'd commission you <.< so sexy GDW avatars *jealos k*